josh
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Apr 28, 2009 17:58:46 GMT -5
Post by josh on Apr 28, 2009 17:58:46 GMT -5
Hello Dana. At this stage I'm also thinking that Aldosterone may be my main problem. Prior to taking any HC or Armour, my TSH was ~2.5 and my FT3 and FT4 were a little lower than they should have been. So, I do think that optimising my thyroid is important to achieving good health, but that said if my adrenals aren't functioning correctly I'm not going to be utilising those thyroid hormones! The 4.2L that I collected was yellow, but that's mainly due to the mixing of all samples. My urine is normally clear once I've been the first few times in the day. I'll post as soon as I have my aldosterone/renin results, don't worry about that!
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Apr 28, 2009 20:12:18 GMT -5
Post by fractal1 on Apr 28, 2009 20:12:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the list Josh... and no it's NOT silly at all! Clearly, you're not utilizing thyroid properly. When thyroid enters the system the renin-angionsten system is supposed to become engaged. If you have low GH, this won't happen. If you have low aldosterone, renin will ramp-up while aldosterone does not. So, the real question is whether the process is stopping renin (GH) or further along the track at aldosterone. You may be unfortunate like me and have a combination of the two. Your IGF-1 certainly isn't promising for GH. So, let's wait for those labs!! ;D p.s. any past B12, zinc, iodide and magnesium results wouldn't go astray if you have them handy. And tell me how you sleep.
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Dana
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Apr 28, 2009 20:19:45 GMT -5
Post by Dana on Apr 28, 2009 20:19:45 GMT -5
When it comes to treatment it's best to follow this order.
Adrenals, Aldosterone (florinef), Thyroid, Sex hormones then Growth hormone. I know that somewhere in there you may also treat vasopressin, but only after treating aldosterone. Low aldosterone can mimic a lot of the same symptoms as diabetes insipidus. I am finding this out first hand.
Honestly I think even an idiotic endo would be willing to do a water deprivation test with you considering how much volume you put out during the cortisol test. That's a LOT of urine!
If you change your schedule or hold off on certain activities because you are afraid of being away from a toilet, then something is definitely wrong. If you find you have to bring water with you every where you go, then something is wrong. These are symptoms that I would bring up to an endo.
Unfortunately I still feel this way some days even though I'm on HC and florinef. My results were borderline for DI. Everything is so interconnected that it is extremely hard to dx DI unless you are one of those extreme, black and white cases. Unfortunately only a tiny percentage of people fit their cutoffs perfectly.
I'll keep an eye out for your results in the next few days.
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Apr 28, 2009 20:30:07 GMT -5
Post by sallycinnamon on Apr 28, 2009 20:30:07 GMT -5
Interestingly, the range for vasopressin/ADH on my lab test was </=7 ......so by that you could be 0.1 and be considered healthy?! ridiculous.
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josh
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Apr 29, 2009 6:33:17 GMT -5
Post by josh on Apr 29, 2009 6:33:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the words of wisdom. October '08 Total Vitamin B12: 345pmol/L (140-650) Started taking 5000mcg Jarrow B12 this week, had been taking 1000mcg cyanocobalamin for a few weeks prior. I do think that it will be Aldosterone as opposed to DI, based on my aldosterone symptoms. Recently my sleep has been fairly uninterrupted. I do wake with the feeling that I've slept too deep and I'm very groggy in the morning. A few years ago I did have problems staying asleep and tried Melatonin with mixed results. What books are suggested reading? I have Wilson's 'Adrenal Fatigue' and 'The Yeast Connection' but I feel I need to expand my library! There are some very learned people around here and I'd like to become one of them
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Apr 30, 2009 15:20:53 GMT -5
Post by fractal1 on Apr 30, 2009 15:20:53 GMT -5
Where are those darn results! Some labs take sooo long.
I'm not sure about good reading material. I think Allison knows some. The anti-ageing books are good because they deal with BHRT. I've got access to a lot of medical books and journals because of uni, so I haven't had the chance to look into them.
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Apr 30, 2009 17:33:10 GMT -5
Post by sallycinnamon on Apr 30, 2009 17:33:10 GMT -5
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josh
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Apr 30, 2009 20:06:32 GMT -5
Post by josh on Apr 30, 2009 20:06:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the book suggestsions, I'll whack them on my credit card If my aldosterone results don't come today, I think I'm going to cry all weekend The letter that said I had to resubmit samples stated that it was for the FBE, so I presume they've got sufficient blood for the remainder of the tests! *cry* Doc's appt is on Wednesday, so here is hoping.
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