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Post by sallycinnamon on Mar 9, 2009 22:28:24 GMT -5
Hi all,
I'm in the process of weaning Florinef as I'm not sure I really need it. I was tested previously but on Day 21 of cycle (as I only had one test slip and was doing sex hormones). It was in range, about a quarter into the range and I know progesterone can push it up in the luteal phase so that's why I initially went on it.
How long after I wean can I re-test Aldo/renin/Na/K ? I know it needs to be Day 3 of cycle, just want to make sure I've left enough time between stopping it altogether and doing the test.
I will still be on HC though - will that make any difference to the aldo/renin results?
thanks Allison
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Post by Lethal Lee on Mar 11, 2009 11:15:05 GMT -5
Hi Allison,
I'm in the process of weaning Florinef as I'm not sure I really need it. I was tested previously but on Day 21 of cycle (as I only had one test slip and was doing sex hormones). It was in range, about a quarter into the range and I know Progesterone can push it up in the luteal phase so that's why I initially went on it
I dont follow your logic there?
In last half of cycle is when Progesterone & hence Aldosterone should be at its HIGHEST. The fact that you tested on day 21 at only 1/4 in range means your Aldosterone IS very low indeed. In first week of cycle it would have been far LOWER!
I remember how bad your symptoms were before starting Florinef & how Florinef quickly took care of the symptoms. You were not able to eliminate symptoms just with Salt supping I recall. And without regular Salt supping you were even worse!!!
I just read today that you had to go up to 2 tabs to cope with the Aussie Summer. So did I actually!!! So why then are you now thinking you DONT need it?
How long after I wean can I re-test Aldo/Renin/Na/K? I know it needs to be Day 3 of cycle, just want to make sure I've left enough time between stopping it altogether and doing the test. As it takes a couple of weeks to assess the full effect of a Florinef dose adjustment I guess you would need to wait 2 weeks after being OFF completely.
But PLEASE do not just stop & do not decrease too much at once or too quickly. Do no more than 1/4 tab decreases a week apart. I think you are currently on 1 1/2 tabs? so that would take 6 weeks to wean off in the recommended way.
You would also need to decrease your Potassium & increase Salt supping as you wean the Florinef.
Then observe correct protocols for testing Aldo, Renin, Sodium & Potassium.
I will still be on HC though - will that make any difference to the Aldo/Renin results? Arent you on a Pred/HC combo? IN any case Chris has always said that testing whike on HC is OK. True HC does have a small Sodium retaining property. But it is pretty weak. Pred has almost none.
I still think in view of symptoms, previous history & results that going off merely to test again on day three would be counterproductive & set you back a lot.
Arent you also doing T3 protocol for clearing RT3? Val says that before doing that protocol that Adrenal support should be optimised. That includes not just Cortisol HRT (HC/Pred) but also "Aldorsterone" HRT (Florinef) if needed. Nor should you be making any changes to the Adrenal meds half way through the RT3 protocol IMHO.
Maybe check with Val for her opinion?
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Post by sallycinnamon on Mar 11, 2009 22:40:37 GMT -5
The problem is that I started Florinef first before HC. And even when I got up to the higher doses I didn't feel as though it was helping enough to warrant continuing it. At the height of summer I was on 2 tablets and I still had problems with the heat, even when I avoided the really hot spots/days.
I'm just not comfortable continuing to take it due to the fluoride and whatever else it's doing to me. My ferritin is dropping for no reason and I think it may be causing some harm in other ways.
The only reason I got it tested Day 21 was because I only had a single lab slip which was mostly for sex hormones. So I want to re-test on Day 3 to get the correct picture. In a perfect world, I would have tested on Day 3 but it wasn't possible at the time (I'm not going to post an essay on why).
If I'm not able to get off it, so be it. But I want to try. I'd like to see if HC and salt works for me - I've never tried that combo on its own, since I started Florinef first before HC.
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