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Post by shelley on Feb 26, 2009 21:03:58 GMT -5
What can one do with these adrenaline rushes that seem to happen even though I show low cortisol. They are tyrpically coming on at like 6P and lasting through the night.
My muscles just contract and I get that flight or fright factor going and don't know how to naturally combat teh time period where it is rushing through me?
I bought some spherios but was going to wait until the saliva tests to come back to see what my cortisol levels are.
Beta blockers? Any suggestions?
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Post by Lethal Lee on Feb 28, 2009 0:12:29 GMT -5
Hi Shelley,
Adrenaline rushes are common with low Cortisol I'm afraid. Obviously the "fix" is to adequately replace Cortisol with HC once testing is complete & confirms need for same!!!
In the meantime there are some things you can do to minimise them .. but propably impossible to eliminate them.
Adrenaline kicks in when energy requirements arent being met. The more "stress" the more Cortisol is needed. If Cortisol is lacking then the body produces ADrenaline to compensate. Unfortunately this leaves you with elevated BP & HR and tired but wired!!!
First avoid other stimulants like coffee, tea, Coca Cola, cigarettes, too much refined sugars & high carbs. Alcohol although not a "stimulant" is often stressful too so best avoided.
Second often blood sugar regulation is not good as Cortisol is needed for this. So avoid adding further to this. Reactive hypoglycemia is common especially after consuming high sugar or carb meals. Hypoglycemia will trigger Adrenaline as well.
So make sure eat plenty of good fats, protien, quality carbs. Eat small frequent meals do not go long periods without eating. May need to eat every 2-3 hours. Make sure to eat something before bed too to minimise sleep disruption.
Thirdly keep hydrated by maintaining good Sodium & Potassium levels. Supp unrefined unbleached Sea Salt several times a day. Eat high Potassium foods & supp Potassium if needed. Suboptimal & imbalanced electrolytes cause cellular dehydration, affect Liver, stomach & intestines and are a big body stressor too.
Fourthly try to minimise stressors where you can. Make improvements in diet, get regular sufficient sleep, reduce work & other commitments, dont do anything physically demanding, reduce or stop exercise if recovery is not good, work on known deficiencies, take time out, allow me time, do relaxation, try meditation massage bath soaks etc etc.
As to the timing of the Adrenaline attacks... look closely at what is happening at the time & in the hours leading up to it. How long since you last ate? Could blood sugars be low? Is it a stressful time...getting meals prepared, dealing with kids & so on? Is it the end of a busy, demanding work day & so on?
When they happen check sitting & standing BP if you can. Buy a BP monitor they arent expensive (avoid the cuff type). Does the standing reading rise or fall? If it falls then extra Sea Salt in water may help.
Some find certain supps may help like Magnesium and often many deficiencies suboptimal levels when Adrenals & Thyroid not up to par. Make sure major mineral, vit levels have been tested & are optimal. Do all the "genera'l" Adrenal support measures.
Lastly most important of all persue full testing, correct DX & adequate treatment!!!!![a href="http://[del:lethallee]"]http://[del:lethallee][/a]
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Post by Lethal Lee on Feb 28, 2009 0:16:42 GMT -5
Hi Shelley,
Adrenaline rushes are common with low Cortisol I'm afraid. Obviously the "fix" is to adequately replace Cortisol with HC once testing is complete & confirms need for same!!!
In the meantime there are some things you can do to minimise them .. but propably impossible to eliminate them.
Adrenaline kicks in when energy requirements arent being met. The more "stress" the more Cortisol is needed. If Cortisol is lacking then the body produces ADrenaline to compensate. Unfortunately this leaves you with elevated BP & HR and tired but wired!!!
First avoid other stimulants like coffee, tea, Coca Cola, cigarettes, too much refined sugars & high carbs. Alcohol although not a "stimulant" is often stressful too so best avoided.
Second often blood sugar regulation is not good as Cortisol is needed for this. So avoid adding further to this. Reactive hypoglycemia is common especially after consuming high sugar or carb meals. Hypoglycemia will trigger Adrenaline as well.
So make sure eat plenty of good fats, protien, quality carbs. Eat small frequent meals do not go long periods without eating. May need to eat every 2-3 hours. Make sure to eat something before bed too to minimise sleep disruption.
Thirdly keep hydrated by maintaining good Sodium & Potassium levels. Supp unrefined unbleached Sea Salt several times a day. Eat high Potassium foods & supp Potassium if needed. Suboptimal & imbalanced electrolytes cause cellular dehydration, affect Liver, stomach & intestines and are a big body stressor too.
Fourthly try to minimise stressors where you can. Make improvements in diet, get regular sufficient sleep, reduce work & other commitments, dont do anything physically demanding, reduce or stop exercise if recovery is not good, work on known deficiencies, take time out, allow me time, do relaxation, try meditation massage bath soaks etc etc.
As to the timing of the Adrenaline attacks... look closely at what is happening at the time & in the hours leading up to it. How long since you last ate? Could blood sugars be low? Is it a stressful time...getting meals prepared, dealing with kids & so on? Is it the end of a busy, demanding work day & so on?
When they happen check sitting & standing BP if you can. Buy a BP monitor they arent expensive (avoid the cuff type). Does the standing reading rise or fall? If it falls then extra Sea Salt in water may help.
Some find certain supps may help like Magnesium and often many deficiencies suboptimal levels when Adrenals & Thyroid not up to par. Make sure major mineral, vit levels have been tested & are optimal. Do all the "genera'l" Adrenal support measures.
Lastly most important of all persue full testing, correct DX & adequate treatment!!!!!
edit: be wary of spherios (is that the right spelling is it Seriphos?) as it does lower Cortisol...you dont want to make it even worse than already is. If night time Cortisol is elevated is often because am levels during the day are too low (especially am) & the body is playing "catch up" all day & night!!!
Do NOT use Beta Blockers if you can possibly avoid them. They actually block T4==>T3 conversion. Send you HypoT & if already Hypo makes it worse. Those that MUST take them need T3 only to work around that conversion issue.
Melatonin help some with sleep issues...often us folks are low in that too. However it does also lower Cortisol & can make things worse especially the next day. It had that affect for me. I have read that very small doses may work better say 1/4 to 1/5 mg rather than 3 mg + that many use. may need to cut tabs or partaialy empty 1 mg caps. Difficult to source low dose Melatonin.
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Post by antoinette on Mar 1, 2009 4:58:12 GMT -5
wut is adrnaline rushis it fast hart rate out of the blue?
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Post by justaustin on Mar 2, 2009 20:29:28 GMT -5
Antoinette,
When folks have issues with low cortisol(whether primary or secondary in origin), the adrenals tend to produce more adrenalin in attempt to compensate. When cortisol drops, we may experience that "wired" feeling. On edge,jumpy,irritiable,sensitive to loud noises,anxiety,increased heart rate/palps. Catecholamines/adrenalin/epinephrine are produced by different part of adrenals. Cortisol on the other hand is calming.
This can manifest at night. Wake up due to low cortisol/low glucose and feel racy,palps,wired. Often people describe the feeling as wired by tired.
Laurie
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Post by april on Mar 5, 2009 8:42:49 GMT -5
Hi I get adrenaline surges alot too. Could it be possible that they can be caused by a thyroid dump? Sometime I have smaller ones that pass rather quickly and other times I have sever ones that come one right after the other. I actually feel the adrenaline poor into my body.
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Post by justaustin on Mar 5, 2009 18:28:05 GMT -5
A way to tell if it's related to a thyroid dump is this: A thyroid dump manifests as feeling hot/sweaty. Like hot flashes. Body temp is elevated. May experience some diarrhea. IF adrenalin surges are accompanied by these, then it could be a thyroid dump.
Laurie
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