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Post by antoinette on Feb 26, 2009 20:31:56 GMT -5
hi chris justaustin and every1,i havent been here for a while,,cuz i jus couldnt read about illness anymore.hoeeverything is well with you all:)
im tryin to wean hc,,fighitng thru the withdrawals...i was wondering why isnt the a thread on weaning hc?i was lookin thru here and didnt see anyhting about getton off hc..or wut to expect while weaning,,wut would helpwhile weaning...ect.
can this be a thread on that?sorry if u have 1 already maybe i over looked:)
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Post by antoinette on Feb 27, 2009 21:20:44 GMT -5
so know 1 has a comment about gettin off this stuff..jus stayin on it?
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Post by Lethal Lee on Feb 27, 2009 23:26:41 GMT -5
Howdy Antoinette,
Sorry no-one has answered. I was hoping someone with some experience with weaning might weigh in.
Truth is this forum does not have a lot of "traffic" not compared with RTH or Vals groups anyway. People tend to come here for more "in depth" analysis of their Labs & troubleshooting the more complicated health conditions that may present.
I know you are aware of the suggested weaning protocols. That is do small decrements only allowing plenty of time between each adjustment. If an adjustment causes intolerable symptoms go back up to previous level you were at immediately before that adjustment. Then after symptoms subside try to resume the weaning.
"Withdrawals" I dont agree that they are withdrawals. You are not getting off an addictive substance. You are reducing HC taken to replace your own inadequate Cortisol levels. If you still need the Cortisol then weaning off is naturally going to make you feel really bad. And if you are Secondary AI which we suspect likely you are then weaning should never be attempted.
That said I will support you no matter what you decide to do. Its your body your decision and if you want to try to wean of course you can.
Can you give me some more background? How have you been feeling recently...before starting to wean. Still working? Social life personal life OK no major dramas illnesses etc?
What about meds & supps what are you on now Thyroid, Adrenals & supps wise?. Any more results from any testing other than what you have posted in your RTH log?
Have you increased Armour at all? Still have IBS, bowel issues? What about low Aldo/Sodium issues? Hows sitting & standing BP & HR? Basal & av daily temps?
What amount of HC were you on & how dosed before you started weaning? What are you down to now? How quickly have you come down?
If you can answer these questions I will be better able to give you some suggestions ..as will others.
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Post by antoinette on Feb 28, 2009 17:33:12 GMT -5
hi lee i emailed you in rth a while back to jus see how u been doing..hiw r u doing?yea im still working,,nopersonal life really..lol..no major dramas,,but been sickm 3 times this year cold/flu.im on 3 1/4th grains armour pantonic acid b12 iron vit c mag.calcium.digest.enzymes.i do have latest labs posted in rth i think last labs were in late dec.i thinkbp is good 120/84 tems were ok 98.4 average but pass couple days been low 97.4 i havent really kept up eith temps jus go how i feel,,,bowel issues,,,ibs..haznt acted up as much ..i went from 30mg-25mg big jump i know but ijus want off..i weaned off b4 and felt fine once i was off but was on it shorter p eriod oftime ..but i suffered while weaning..my dosing b4 was 10mg at 130pm ,7.5 at 4pm 5mg at 7pm 5mg at 1030pm and 2,5 at bed at 1st i went from 5 doses a day to 4doses adasy and lowered by 5mg and was on period (i know to many hcanges and on period is a no,no right?)..wen i went to 25mg i took it like this but was havin prob..10mg at 3pm 7.5 at 4pm 5 at 1030pm and 2.5 at bed...was really itchy..emotioanl.cold chillz..feel hypo symptoms...i gave it 4 days then went back up 1 makin 27.5mg like this 10mg at 130pm 5mg*at 4pm 5mg at 7pm 5mg at 1030pm and 2.5 at bed...been on this dosing schedule for 2 days now..not as much itchyness but little palps here and there..i dont know if i loweredd the hc in the right order?i hope i explained right..sorry if imissed anything..o yea and i been havin sinus probs. lately semi stuffy nose ,and lazy/tired,,but around 730-8pm and so on i feelfine like normal wen im at work witch i start at 11pm..since i lowered hc i dont feel as anxious at work my hart rate is slower,,b4 wen i was higher dose hc felt like my hart was more faster ,,and wen i got stressed out,,i felt sick and anxious ,,and i would get more stressed out feelings at work..but ever since i lowrd i dont feel as stressed at work..my periods have been more stable eachmonth.instead of startin 2 wekks ahead of time each month itsmore regular,,like it starts on time or 2 days b4 schedule,,wen im rightin this im itching but not as bad.. ..and im drinkin salt 2-3times a day and xtra since im weaning..even if i get to 25mg ill be happy with that for a while..a long time ago i was up to 37mg!so im proud of myself that im on 27.5mg but only 2 days so far..ill be happy if i can stay on 27mg for a while then wean another 2.5 in a month,,thanks for ur help lee and totohers that respond:) sorry forgot to add that i have sum mucsle twitchin as well.. o yea and about withdrawals i do believe you can have withdrawals..it is not a addictive drug..but just like caffeine.sugar,,cigz,antidpressants,your body goes thru changes of not havin wut it is used to of.cortisol is addictive to the body(this is wut i read) ,it recognizes that its not gettin wut it is used to of,,so wen we wean off its lettin us know"hey were is my cortisol"..haha,,wen we dont giv it wut it wants,what it is used to of,,then it kicks us in the ass with symptoms,,witch i call withdrawals ..i figure thats y we wean off slowly so we wont have these "witdrawal symptoms.
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