Post by 1wearychick on Feb 1, 2009 10:08:23 GMT -5
I was running a search today on Ray Peat's Progest E.
I finally got my cycle after not having one for 12 weeks. This was the first time in my life this has happened (except for 2 pregnancies) typically the past three years I am on time or early, bleeding every two weeks. This has been helped I think by progesteroneuse over the past two years. For a year I did a compounded cream, then a troche, never moving my numbers up much. Not enough to even put me in the low testing level. My progesterone is low, was very low, but has slowly been improving. Lee did a great post on RTH forum a few months back and from there I learned about Progest E, so I bought it and have been waiting for the opportunity to use it. This week should be it if I do. Now here are my issues
1. How much do I use? Previously I was dx'd to take 100mg/50mg 2x per day. In actuality I took 50mg 1x per day. Sometimes I feel better taking it, sometimes I do not.
2. I am scheduled to go to Mayo Clinic (now) Feb.11 to endo dept. for further testing - sent by my primary. (I could do a whole other thread on Mayo and my uncertainty of going here again) Should I not begin progest e at all and wait until next go around?
I am desperate to feel better and have just been existing for some time. I was doing better, more capable, 2 months ago when I was pooling armour..........another story.....
3. This morning while googling progest e I came across this information which makes me think I should hold off on progesterone and perhaps take a look at pregnenolone first.
I am a big believer in Quantum Lab products. I learned about them a couple of years ago from an ND. They are very clean products (which is why she used them). Since that time, I know they have become even more mainstream. This is from a site related to Quantum products.
www.longnaturalhealth.com/newsletter.asp?N=108
PROGEST E, Progesterone and Alternatives:
A few hundred of my customers are wanting to know when they are going to receive their back-order of Progest E. The company finally contacted me today. Though, their answer is they don't know. They said, as soon as they have it they will send it to me. And all I can say is, as soon as I have it, it will be sent to my customers. I want to thank everyone for being patient with this situation.
There is no progesterone product comparable to Progest E. It is a wonderful, natural product that does wonders for so many people. Though, for many people there may be wiser alternatives.
Dr. Raymond Peat, who created Progest E and is considered by many to a leading authority on progesterone, hormones, thyroid, oils and fats, and much more, taught me that before taking progesterone, people need to support their thyroids and adrenals, improve the health of their liver, improve their diets, make sure they are using healthy oils and fats, and more. When a client has an In-depth Health Consultation with me, I cover all this.
Many people are just hearing about natural progesterone and then ordering it. This can be a mistake for many of you. First of all, it may not be needed. And secondly, you are cheating yourselves of healing the root problems, that are also potentially leading to other even more serious health problems.
To better understand the point I am making, read what Dr. Mercola has to say. Though I am not supporting his recommended saliva testing. Dr. Peat and other highly respected researchers have taught me these tests can not be counted on. Just like thyroid blood tests can not be counted on, just like a blood test for calcium and nutrition can not be counted on.
What Dr. Mercola is saying about problems with progesterone creams is correct. And what he is saying about the need to support the adrenal glands and using pregnenolone is correct.
For fifteen years I have recommended that women using progesterone use Progest E, not progesterone creams (and certainly not synthetic progesterone like Provera). I have also always recommended first the use of pregnenolone (for men and woman with signs of hormonal imbalance and premature aging) along with adrenal and thyroid support as needed. These are fist line actions for hormone imbalances, not taking hormones.
The specific products I now recommend are Quantum Pregnenolone and Quantum Adrenal Complex . The Thera-zyme Adr (Adrenal) is a good product too, though I experience the Quantum Adrenal getting better results.
With pregenolone, adrenal support, thyroid support if needed, and a good diet, especially including adequate healthy fats and oils, quality protein, magnesium and trace minerals, etc, the body can create its own progesterone and other hormones. And the body knows best what it wants and needs, not some so-so test.
When it comes to hormone products, be very careful. There are so many that are potentially harmful. Progesterone should not be taken in a cream. There is no product like Dr. Peat's bio-identical natural progesterone in vitamin E.
And pregnenolone is not a hormone. It is the food precursor that the body makes other hormones out of like DHEA, progesterone and testosterone. I consider DHEA very unsafe to take. Again, pregnenolone, adrenal and often thyroid support are the best choices. Along with proper diet and nutrition.
I trust Dr. Marshall's Quantum Pregnenolone to be pure, not cut with other powders and containing contaminents that have been a problem with other pregnenolone products.
For more information on Quantum Pregnenolone click here.
For further information, read Dr. Mercola's article, and also read Dr. Raymond Peat's articles in my web Library. Use the Library Page Search Tool to find all Dr. Peat's articles. Educate yourself, rather than jumping on medical and health industry band-wagons.
I finally got my cycle after not having one for 12 weeks. This was the first time in my life this has happened (except for 2 pregnancies) typically the past three years I am on time or early, bleeding every two weeks. This has been helped I think by progesteroneuse over the past two years. For a year I did a compounded cream, then a troche, never moving my numbers up much. Not enough to even put me in the low testing level. My progesterone is low, was very low, but has slowly been improving. Lee did a great post on RTH forum a few months back and from there I learned about Progest E, so I bought it and have been waiting for the opportunity to use it. This week should be it if I do. Now here are my issues
1. How much do I use? Previously I was dx'd to take 100mg/50mg 2x per day. In actuality I took 50mg 1x per day. Sometimes I feel better taking it, sometimes I do not.
2. I am scheduled to go to Mayo Clinic (now) Feb.11 to endo dept. for further testing - sent by my primary. (I could do a whole other thread on Mayo and my uncertainty of going here again) Should I not begin progest e at all and wait until next go around?
I am desperate to feel better and have just been existing for some time. I was doing better, more capable, 2 months ago when I was pooling armour..........another story.....
3. This morning while googling progest e I came across this information which makes me think I should hold off on progesterone and perhaps take a look at pregnenolone first.
I am a big believer in Quantum Lab products. I learned about them a couple of years ago from an ND. They are very clean products (which is why she used them). Since that time, I know they have become even more mainstream. This is from a site related to Quantum products.
www.longnaturalhealth.com/newsletter.asp?N=108
PROGEST E, Progesterone and Alternatives:
A few hundred of my customers are wanting to know when they are going to receive their back-order of Progest E. The company finally contacted me today. Though, their answer is they don't know. They said, as soon as they have it they will send it to me. And all I can say is, as soon as I have it, it will be sent to my customers. I want to thank everyone for being patient with this situation.
There is no progesterone product comparable to Progest E. It is a wonderful, natural product that does wonders for so many people. Though, for many people there may be wiser alternatives.
Dr. Raymond Peat, who created Progest E and is considered by many to a leading authority on progesterone, hormones, thyroid, oils and fats, and much more, taught me that before taking progesterone, people need to support their thyroids and adrenals, improve the health of their liver, improve their diets, make sure they are using healthy oils and fats, and more. When a client has an In-depth Health Consultation with me, I cover all this.
Many people are just hearing about natural progesterone and then ordering it. This can be a mistake for many of you. First of all, it may not be needed. And secondly, you are cheating yourselves of healing the root problems, that are also potentially leading to other even more serious health problems.
To better understand the point I am making, read what Dr. Mercola has to say. Though I am not supporting his recommended saliva testing. Dr. Peat and other highly respected researchers have taught me these tests can not be counted on. Just like thyroid blood tests can not be counted on, just like a blood test for calcium and nutrition can not be counted on.
What Dr. Mercola is saying about problems with progesterone creams is correct. And what he is saying about the need to support the adrenal glands and using pregnenolone is correct.
For fifteen years I have recommended that women using progesterone use Progest E, not progesterone creams (and certainly not synthetic progesterone like Provera). I have also always recommended first the use of pregnenolone (for men and woman with signs of hormonal imbalance and premature aging) along with adrenal and thyroid support as needed. These are fist line actions for hormone imbalances, not taking hormones.
The specific products I now recommend are Quantum Pregnenolone and Quantum Adrenal Complex . The Thera-zyme Adr (Adrenal) is a good product too, though I experience the Quantum Adrenal getting better results.
With pregenolone, adrenal support, thyroid support if needed, and a good diet, especially including adequate healthy fats and oils, quality protein, magnesium and trace minerals, etc, the body can create its own progesterone and other hormones. And the body knows best what it wants and needs, not some so-so test.
When it comes to hormone products, be very careful. There are so many that are potentially harmful. Progesterone should not be taken in a cream. There is no product like Dr. Peat's bio-identical natural progesterone in vitamin E.
And pregnenolone is not a hormone. It is the food precursor that the body makes other hormones out of like DHEA, progesterone and testosterone. I consider DHEA very unsafe to take. Again, pregnenolone, adrenal and often thyroid support are the best choices. Along with proper diet and nutrition.
I trust Dr. Marshall's Quantum Pregnenolone to be pure, not cut with other powders and containing contaminents that have been a problem with other pregnenolone products.
For more information on Quantum Pregnenolone click here.
For further information, read Dr. Mercola's article, and also read Dr. Raymond Peat's articles in my web Library. Use the Library Page Search Tool to find all Dr. Peat's articles. Educate yourself, rather than jumping on medical and health industry band-wagons.